OK this may be slightly off topic, but I’m drinking coffee while I type, surely that counts? 😉
So yes, the UK has voted to leave the EU, and it has divided the country in terms of those who are elated, and those who are gutted.
I voted to remain, mainly because I think things are better the way they are than they could potentially be if we left, so I didn’t see a point in rocking the boat. No one really seems to know where we’re headed, other than out – and I do hope it’s not back to “how things were before”, which seems to be what some people desire. I believe it wasn’t exactly a bed of roses in the 70’s, in fact by many accounts the UK was spiralling into oblivion, and between the early 70’s when we entered the EU, and the early 80’s, things were turned around – while we were in the EU.
Obviously we can’t say for sure that we wouldn’t have done the same without being part of the EU, but still, I do hope that leaving the EU doesn’t set us spiralling, and that’s the main reason I voted to remain, that and the fact that I think it’s right that we should stick with our neighbours and improve things rather than just bailing out.
Yes I do realise that the EU isn’t perfect, and I wish Brussels would stop meddling as much as they do in individual countries, and I do feel that the way the EU is ran needs reforming, including having a serious look at who’s in charge and whether they should be elected, and so on – but I don’t think the answer is backing off with our tail between our legs, I think the answer is to get stuck in and try to make things better.
But anyway, the UK has spoken, so those of us who voted to remain just have to accept that, although you can of course sign the petition to appeal for a second referendum which over three million people have now signed!!
I voted, I had my say, and I’ve signed the above petition too, although I think I have more chance of willing the lottery than there actually being a second referendum, I’m not angry about the outcome though, I had my say in it, it went the other way, I’m just hopeful now that those who voted leave made the better decision, and that remains to be seen.
But, the people in the UK who I think have a right to be VERY angry and disappointed, are all 16 – 17 year olds who have an opinion!
You may say that 16 and 17-year-olds are not yet 18, so they are not yet legally adults – but the minimum age to vote in the Scottish referendum was 16, so it seems very unfair that those who this decision will have a huge impact on, weren’t given a say.
The younger you are, the more this vote matters. If you’re in your 60s and have retired, this decision doesn’t affect you anywhere nearly as much, and for as long, as if you’re 16 or 17 and just thinking about starting out in the world, getting a job, getting on the property ladder and so on.
In my opinion, this means more to the younger people than anyone else, and since the minimum age to vote in the Scottish referendum was 16, it should have been the same in the EU referendum. If you agree, sign this petition – it may be too late, but if it gets over 100k votes it may be debated in parliament, and I at least think the 16 and 17 year olds who weren’t given the right to vote for their future, deserve an apology – or better still, a second referendum with a lower minimum age (not that I really think this will happen.)
I actually think that a lot of younger people in the UK are now a lot more clued up and more level-headed when it comes to politics than a lot of the older and allegedly wiser folk. When I speak to older generations, not all, but some of them are voting purely with their hearts, and voting in protest, rather than voting with their heads and thinking about what that vote really means – and it’s scary how many people are basing their opinions on complete nonsense. I had a debate with a 50-odd year old guy the other day who was adamant that Turkey was joining the EU next week, and this was one of the main reasons he wanted to vote leave.
I’m not at all slagging off those who voted to leave by the way. When people who are informed, have made their decision based on fact, then we can’t argue with that regardless of whether we’ve made the opposite opinion also based on facts and our interpretation of what they mean. What I think is a problem though is people making decisions that aren’t at all based on facts.
Take the Turkey scenario – some people voted leave based on being scared that Turkey will be in the EU very soon and having opinions on what that would mean. Some people have heard that there is a deal which includes speeding up opening the next stage of talks about EU membership, and have taken that to mean they’re fast tracking Turkey entering the EU and it could happen in weeks. Yes, part of this deal includes talks about making preparations for opening the next stage of talks, but so far they have only completed one of the thirty five accession chapters, and anyone who knows anything about this will tell you that if it ever happens, it’s not going to happen soon, it would probably be decades at least.
Another reason some people voted leave, is that there were very clear promises made about £350 million that would be re-directed to the NHS if we were to leave the EU. The NHS is a very emotive subject, and I can completely understand people voting this way if they thought this was the case, especially if they were undecided. It turned out that this was a lie, and people who discovered this on the day the results were announced, who saw Nick Farage on live TV admitting that this was a “mistake”, were disgusted to find that their vote was partly based on what they believed to be facts, which turned out not to be the case.
Having said that, I think there were lies and scaremongering on both sides, so I’m not saying that the remain campaign were perfect – I did also cringe at some of the statements made by the remain campaign during the live debates, although I did cringe more at some of the statements being spouted by the leave camp.
If we do get a second referendum based on the petition mentioned earlier, which is of course highly unlikely, I think that the age should be dropped to 16, and I also think there should be a short multiple choice test on each ballot paper, to prove that the person voting actually knows their arse from their elbow, and understands what they’re actually voting for…
Who is currently PM?
A) David Cameron
B) David Beckham
C) Donald Duck
What is the difference between an immigrant and a refugee?
A) Immigrants are moving for economic or other reasons, while refugees are fleeing persecution.
B) There is no difference
C) Immigrants come on a plane, refugees hide in the back of a truck.
What does leaving the EU actually mean?
A) The UK will no longer be a part of the European Union
B) The UK landmass will be moved away from Europe to somewhere warmer.
C) Something to do with the football..
OK some more thought than this would probably need to go into the questions ;-), but you get the idea, what we don’t want is complete and utter “cockwombles” voting for our future! There is no doubt that they’re out there, there are people who actually thought it was to do with moving geographically, seriously – there are people who think that it means all “foreigners” will be deported and Britain will just be for Brits… there are people who have some really odd ideas about what this means, and these people surely shouldn’t be given the opportunity to vote just because they’re old enough, especially given that there are millions of 16 and 17 year old people who completely understand what we’re voting for and know exactly how they would vote and why.
Speaking of cockwombles… Are we going to end up with Boris Johnson as PM??
Haha!! I’m sorry, I couldn’t resist, he’s an easy target – but actually having said that, he’s an easy target because unlike most politicians, he is a character, he takes part in things other than just verbal discussions, and isn’t scared of making a fool of himself; so actually although I’ve just taken an easy cheap shot at him, in the same sentence I’m taking that back and contradicting myself to a certain degree. Yes, I think he’s daft, yes I disagree with a lot of what he says, and this video shows that only a few years ago he had a completely different opinion about the EU and said he would vote to remain… but having said that I do wish more politicians were like him, in that he’s a character, and he seems to say more or less what’s on his mind rather than only rehearsed speeches, such as his “Lefty Tossers!” comment ;-). Whoever does end up leading the country, I do hope that they have character, and the guts to say what they truly feel.
The one person who probably is the most scared about Boris ending up being PM though, is Boris himself! If he does end up running the country, he may well be leading the country through a recession triggered by Brexit (or at least triggered by the fear of a recession…) and all sorts of other problems, not a surprise that David Cameron stepped down!
Anyway, if you agree younger people should have the right to vote as was the case with the Scottish referendum, then sign this petition to tell the government that you believe it’s not fair that 16-17 year olds don’t have a say in their future.
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